What’s Driving California’s Mass Exodus?

@Steven Ratti I have trouble, when in CA, getting them to understand I would like a #2 meal..................egg mcmuffin.

Why, yes. How about in Miami, Florida? Do they still speak Spanish there? Fact is, there is no official language in the USA. We have a traditional common language, which is American English, and that's the most common language in most of California.

@123LilSerb123 Trump Troll spotted.

@Steven Ratti npc spotted

Not even remotely true. All caps propaganda is still propaganda.

California is no more socialist than any other state, no matter what the anti-California propaganda you listen to might say. We tax people, and then spend the money to pay for things that the people as a whole want- Exactly the way everyone else does it. As for guns, most Californians I know, no matter our political party, are gun owners. Despite what some love to believe, California still has the second amendment, just like every other state. True, there are some pretty stupid rules about guns, but... you can still buy and use guns. Hell, I live across a lake from a ranch where they've got their own private firing range. As for freedom of speech- guess what- we've got it, and even more of it than some other states. We've also got a healthy respect for the separation of church and state, just like the nation's founders wanted. Seems that any state that wanted to be free, would embrace That... Fact is, if I ever moved to another state, it'd probably be to the one I was born in- Texas, where a huge number of native-born democrats are trying to get rid of the corrupt Republican politicians...

habla espanol por favor

Yeah, Texas, where the virtually unregulated business environment makes it easy for a company to virtually destroy a small town (West, Texas), and the virtually unregulated independent power grid shuts down because no one figured out that it might be nice to winterize it. Seems to me that TX could use a few more people who believe in safety regulations and planning for bad stuff...

for most, there are many factors. COST of living is one of them. Maybe you are lucky enough to afford Ca but most are not. Also, most people live in larger cities- are surrounded by homeless, trash, and closed businesses. So yeah, beauty is one thing, life is another.

Couldn't have said it any better.

California has some issues with our power grid, but they are being addressed. Our Real big problem is one that most people who are leaving don't want to admit they are scared of- wildfires. Hell, I'm not planning to head to Texas (I was born in Dallas, and have relatives there still), and I'm not afraid to admit that the wildfires scare the hell out of me.

Just wait til Democrats takeover Texas it will be Texas in 10 years

@Steven Ratti high taxes, gas prices, illegals, crime, home prices, toxic people, covid, unemployment, homeless. How are these being fixed now. Only covid is recent

@Rob Bingst It's working out pretty well, for those of us who are staying, and trying to fix the problems. It's still the richest state in the nation, and almost as many green companies are coming in, as dirty companies are leaving. If Texas and other states want a bunch of companies who are looking forward to poisoning your ground water, and polluting your air, I'm sure you'll love California's rejects. They'll fit in really well with those companies that are doing the same things there already.

@Steven Ratti how's that working for ya

And yet, for most, we love the state, and instead of running away, we're sticking around to try and solve the problems.

Most of the people that leave California are right wing conservatives! Some of them leave, because they don't like the stronger gun laws, so they move to Texas where they can have all the guns they want. The DEMS used to carry CA by 20 points, now it is 30 points, and after more people move to Texas it will be 40 points! Those Californians who move to Texas, most of them vote GOP. There is no perfect state, some things I like better about CA, somethings I like better about Texas. Overall I like more things about California, than I do Texas.

Most of the people leaving California are ones who want to make the state as politically vile as Texas- Conservatives. I hope you enjoy the hell out of them; it's no real loss to California to lose those people.

Yes California the only state that is liberal in the whole country lmao

Your argument is a ball of fluff. You can't even Make one; all you do is mouth a bunch of rightist talking points, and the say "California" as if that's a real answer.

So, a party that wants to combat the climate crisis that, in the last 50 years has resulted in the world's average high temperature going up by over 12 degrees... is Bad? A party that believes that Every Citizen should have easy access to voting is... bad? A party that believes that every American having access to affordable (or free) healthcare is... bad? Actually, I'd say that anyone who is Against all that stuff is the bad party. We do, in fact, have a party in this country that consistently votes to restrict action in all of those areas; that is the same party that believes it's okay for demagogues to lie about election fraud, and that it's perfectly okay to support a man who staged an insurrection. Oddly enough, the party in question is the Republican Party. And in California, members of that party Never want to try and come up with solutions for Anything; instead, they do what Republicans do- try to ruin the state, like others of their party try to ruin the nation.

To be fair, a huge percentage of the homeless people in California seem to have gotten bus tickets (one way) from other states. You know, the states that don't want to admit that They have homeless people, too.

"Fortunately I have a great job". Exactly, what job would you have in Wisconsin? Squeezing out milk for more cheese? You clearly state all the issues you have with California but have no problem living here because you know you wouldn't make this much money in Wisconsin, Texas, Oklahoma etc. You can choose from pharmaceuticals, tech, farming, entertainment all in one state there's literally jobs here for everyone here.

Higher taxes are what the nation as a whole needs; after all, how long can the USA continue to operate on credit before it has a real problem?

So in a state like Texas where its predominantly Republican, why are they still facing issues with immigration and can't even provide their own people with adequate housing and electricity? Grass isn't always greener on the other side is it now?

You have the 4th highest property tax rates You'll tax my house, my car, my truck, my boat, my RV, my motorcycle, my 4 wheeler, my golf cart, and everything else I own until I bleed through my eyes.

Hopefully the ignorance stays in California too

So, instead of staying, and trying to help fix the problems, you can only think of running away, and letting Others stay and try to fix the problems.

The problem has already reached Texas. Austin, California. Our Texas government is attempting to reverse Austin's defund the police and get rid of all the homeless in Austin. Why does not the larger Texas cities have the homeless problem as Austin does; is it because of all the California's who moved there and the homeless follow?

And, strangely enough, a lot of those idiots are always complaining about California, always blaming someone else for their own failures.

They ran away not so much because of taxes, or the high pay that comes with living in a rich state; they are running away because they are too cowardly to stay and try to fix the problems they helped create. Texas- you are welcome to the jerks who run away instead of trying to help. I wish you all the joy we've had from them (little to none, in most cases).

And also remember who the Texans did to Mexico. We can do it again.

Yeah, remember to vote for corrupt conservatives, like Abbott, or Cancun Cruz. Remember to vote for people who hate safety regulations, and who love the idea of dirty air and water. Seems to me like living in a state that believes in holding politicians to account for their misdeeds (that's how we ended up with Schwarzenegger in office, after getting rid of a governor who cut a bunch of sweetheart deals with unregulated Texas energy companies), cleaning up the air, and helping prevent companies from blowing up small towns (such as in West, Texas), is actually a good thing.

The simple fact is, while a lot of businesses and people are leaving the state, almost as many are moving To California. With certain exceptions, the majority of businesses that seem to be leaving, are looking to move to places where it's not so much the taxation they want to avoid, but the environmental and safety regulations they want to escape from. Texas is Very business friendly, to the point that their environmental and safety regulations are less of a hindrance, and more of a suggestion. In the meantime, California actually provides pretty good incentives for green businesses to relocate to the state. Admittedly, other states also provide similar incentives, but few of them are as attractive in terms of real commitment to fighting the effects of the climate crisis. End result, we still have a serious lack of housing. Well, there's also a huge problem with speculation; wealthy people and businesses love to buy up existing properties, raise the rents (without actually bothering to fix up the properties), and that tends to attract many more well off people; of course, that tends to drive away lower income people (frequently the former residents of those properties), who, if they can't find lower cost housing, well, they either become part of the working homeless population (not a group that gets a lot of press, because they typically live in RV's and whatnot, instead of makeshift tents), or they just leave the state, like so many others.

Fact is, aside from Oracle, Part of HP (the majority of their facilities are still in California), Mitsubishi, and a few others, most of the named businesses are not well known. But yeah, Mitsubishi has manufacturing and assembly plants all over the world, just like most large US companies do.

What the heck are you smoking?

You'd rather have the Republican politicians (aka Fascists) who don't give a damn about regular people in Texas? You know, folks like Cancun Cruz...

Whaaaaa?

@Wise One Um, sad to tell you, but the new President is Joe Biden. And he will be President, in all likelihood, for two terms. After Him, well, there's a very fine V-P with far more qualifications than anyone you named, who could well manage a term or two of her own. I don't think most of the nation wants to go back to the cronyism and incompetence of the Republican Party any time soon.

@Steven Ratti We have a very fine Governor in Texas and the Legislator is wonderful (Republican). My cousin is one of them. Cruz will be reelected as we love him too. Our new President of the USA will be the non-Florida governor as we love him in Texas too. Too bad our Texas governor can't be VP but having them on the same ticket makes no sense. Anyway we want to keep him in Texas. Perhaps Florida and Texas will yet save this nation.

@Steven Ratti Bro.. Mad Maxine Waters doesn't have an ounce of honesty in her. The woman is corrupt to the core and anyone who can't see that must be smoking that Cali crack pipe.

And moving to Texas, where All of the politicians (such as the Governor, the AG, the Senators, and so on) are corrupt. Compared to Cancun Cruz, Maxine is totally honest.

And Bulldoze Malibu, and give the beach back to the people.

@Steven Ratti You'd think California would be a great state if people flocked there in droves. Oh wait, few people actually move to California, with many Californians actually leaving. The same goes for New York.

@Emma You are lucky to live in a state that gives enough of a damn about you that you don't have to stand in line for 10 or so hours just to vote, like is common in many red states. As for insulting me- are you a Republican? You know, that party that approves of Insurrection instead of free and fair elections?

@Steven Ratti free healthcare is the reason California is such a $h!t hole. Nothing is free you idiot, they just raise our taxes. I live in LA. And who isn’t allowed to vote that’s over the age of 18 and is a US citizen?!

@Steven Ratti those progressive views are the reason why they had to move out. It’s not hard to understand. It sounds good on paper until you read the fine print.

@Steven Ratti I know Californians think they have the greatest ideas for Americans but did you know the Communists are really having their way with libersals. Watch this to see what Communists say is the way to make Countries Communistic.. It is scary how similar it is to how liberals think today.... usmuchs.info/call/video/rsZ1hobFun-yiGU.html

And it’s completely blackout’d.

then they get that Texas property tax bill and realize they gotta pay 15,000 😂😂